Anonymous girl post in ‘ask a solicitor’

#1
Anonymous girl,
You have submitted a long post today in the ‘ask a solicitor’ section. You are unlikely to get a reply before your court appearance in the morning.
When you appear in court, your name, address and occupation will be confirmed with the magistrates. This will be the details that you gave the Police and they then put on the charge sheet. I see no reason that you would be referred to as a ‘call girl’ unless you gave that as your job when the police booked you into custody.......
It is not possible for you to change your name by deed poll tonight, submit a passport application and then give that name in court tomorrow. Even if it was, it would still be your name in court tomorrow, with the new name being listed as an ‘alias’ to your real name.
You had about 5 units of alcohol in your system when you were breath tested, 3or 4 hours had gone by, there are 9-10 units of alcohol in a bottle of wine at 12-14% abc, so the reading was about right, I don’t think your drinks were spiked. The co-codamol if anything would have slowed your liver down, producing a higher reading that without taking them.
Your best bet is a quiet guilty plea and say as little as possible, certainly not mentioning anything you have said in the post to the solicitor here.
The more detail in court, the more likely the press are to publish the story!

You can ask ask to speak to the duty solicitor on the day. Drink driving does not qualify for legal aid, but the advice is free, and he or she MIGHT go into court to speak for you depending on how busy they are.
You do not have to pay the fine on the day, you can pay in instalments and they will ask you about your financial circumstances. Whatever the outcome, you will have a ban, you cannot avoid that. It will be between 12-16 months. This can be reduced by up to 25% if you are offered, and accept, to do a Drink Drive Rehabilitation Course. If the magistrates do not mention it, ask if you can do the course. It cannot be offered once case has finished in court.
I hope this helps........
 
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#2
I see you have changed your name, if you start explaining that to the court tomorrow, in front of the press, then you are making it much more likely that it will be reported, and both names will appear in the story so you will have gained nothing by changing your name.
The name that will be put to you in court will be the name you were charged in, not the name you say you have changed to tonight by deed poll. You cannot say “can the conviction be recorded against my new name please?” It will be recorded against both names, otherwise anyone could change their name and get a new licence even though they have been banned in their birth name.... You are in danger of taking a simple drink drive case and turning it into something much more dramatic, which is what you want to avoid.
if you plead not guilty then you will see the full police case against you.... but the prosecution costs go up from £85 to £625 that they will claim if you are convicted.
 
#3
Thank you so much for your advice-I just saw your thread. Oh dear, so I am now the proud owner of a useless second name! I will just keep my mouth shut in court and hope the local press will be busy with cold weather related stories.Yes I thought the cocodomal had something to do with it-that explains the high reading then, I will not be doing that again, I didn't feel right for days after that, didn't realize they were so strong! I don't know if there's any point trying to plead not guilty as they didn't see me driving-I was thinking about it.If anything I'll see what the duty solicitor says in the morning. Thanks again
 
#5
Yeah, I pled guilty and got a 15 month ban and a not TOO expensive fine which they've given me a bit of time to pay.I was not impressed with the duty solicitor-he came into court with me and made it worse, telling them how far I'd driven,when the prosecution hadn't mentioned it and I'm pretty sure they didn't even know.They bought up the distance driven when announcing my sentence . Also he went into details telling them I was at a "function" and was pressured to drink and had to go home where I felt safe-I told him not to mention any of that and as soon as he started talking the sad little newspaper reporter started scribbling away the juicy details in her notebook, ..at least he didn't out me as a sex worker although no doubt any unsavory person I've ever associated with will now be able to get my address including my psycho ex, I heard some men talking by the court reception and one of them said my name as well, hopefully they were not reporters and just asking what cases had already been dealt with or something. The whole thing is just making me so angry I shouldn't even have been in that situation in the first place I shouldn't have been destitute in the first place I never drive when I've had more than a couple of drinks if I hadn't have been in this mess none of this would have happened. I need to stop letting people f up my life Anyway rant over sorry-thankyou so much for helping me, I felt so lost and stressed out and if I hadn't found this site I don't think I would've been able to sleep the last few days
 

hewl

Well-known member
#6
........I never drive when I've had more than a couple of drinks........
I think you seriously need to evaluate what you're saying here!

You don't come across with any remorse or lesson learnt!

In the future don't drive when you have had ANY drinks or this will happen again. A couple of drinks is likely to put you over the limit or at least very close to it on each and every occasion you do it. You are lucky no one was injured or the consequences would have been much much worse. Reading through your posts you seem to justify why you drunk drove without any real thought about what you did or what could have happened. There should NEVER be a good reason to drive over the limit. There are always alternatives.

The rant about the duty solicitor and reporters etc.....at the risk of sounding too harsh well boo hoo! YOU were the one who broke the law and this is what happens! LEARN from it
 
#7
To be honest I had no choice but to do that me and my mum were both surviving on her pension snowed under in debt there are no jobs round here . I couldn't physically do it without drinking the man knew I was driving and he obviously wanted to get me drunk for spite or so he could keep me there all night and do god knows what so yes I do blame him and no I don't think its fair that I could be attacked by an ex that I've been careful not to let know where I live for years because of something completely unrelated. I was sentanced to a driving ban not to having my throat slit.
 

hewl

Well-known member
#8
To be honest I had no choice but to do that me and my mum were both surviving on her pension snowed under in debt there are no jobs round here . I couldn't physically do it without drinking the man knew I was driving and he obviously wanted to get me drunk for spite or so he could keep me there all night and do god knows what so yes I do blame him and no I don't think its fair that I could be attacked by an ex that I've been careful not to let know where I live for years because of something completely unrelated. I was sentanced to a driving ban not to having my throat slit.
You had no choice but to drink and drive???

Try explaining that to a mother of a child thats been killed by a drink driver!

Seriously, wise up!
 
#9
I don't get drunk and drive that's the point-it was that flipping bloke,I actually watered his plant with some of it when he went to the loo.I would've quickly left but I didn't know how the gate opens.There aren't many kids out in the middle of the night particularly not on the motorway and I knew that.to be honest if I invited someone over now and plyed them with booze, I could tell them to stay over to get them to drink, then I could kick them out in the snow and I bet you they wouldn't sit in the car all day, then if they killed a child I'd feel at least 50 percent responsible.
 

hewl

Well-known member
#10
I don't get drunk and drive that's the point-it was that flipping bloke,I actually watered his plant with some of it when he went to the loo.I would've quickly left but I didn't know how the gate opens.There aren't many kids out in the middle of the night particularly not on the motorway and I knew that.to be honest if I invited someone over now and plyed them with booze, I could tell them to stay over to get them to drink, then I could kick them out in the snow and I bet you they wouldn't sit in the car all day, then if they killed a child I'd feel at least 50 percent responsible.
You don't get drunk and drive?? You stated you never drive after more than 2 drinks. This would imply other occasions that you have driven after 2 drinks.

It is NOT safe to drive after 2 drinks, you will be over the limit or very close to it. For those reasons l very much doubt this was a 'one off'. It was the first time you were caught.

As for the rest of your post, it is utter crap! No consideration at all to others travelling at 70mph on a motorway was there. Whatever your reasons for drinking in the first place are irrelevant! There is NEVER an excuse to then drive! It's one or the other.

There are always alternatives such as buses, cabs, trains, your legs!

The moment you started drinking is the moment you lose your right to drive. YOU are risking the lives of others! People like you who do not understand that or do not think about the welfare of others make me sick. With your attitude towards drink driving your licence should be ripped up! Atleast you will be off the road for 15 months.

The fact that other road users called the police on you should be an indication that drink driving is not only unnacceptable but utterly despicable. Even worse that after the fact you feel hard done by playing the victim. I don't think for one second you have learned your lesson at all and that is a real worry in 15 months time for every single one of us.

I repeat.......LEARN from it.

Perhaps you should read articles like this one http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5445577/Teenagers-killed-drunk-driver-laid-rest.html from just yesterday and change your attitude before you end up in prison and some poor person in the wrong place at the wrong time ends up in a coffin.
 
#11
I have driven occasionally after 1 or 2 drinks and I breathalyzed myself with those throwaway ones you buy in halfords before driving and I was UNDER. The only other time I've driven on more than that the police breathalyzed me and I was UNDER the only reason they pulled me was because I was speeding on the motorway as do a lot of others, then they smelt the booze.The man who killed those 3 boys was obviously VERY drunk.
 
#13
I have driven occasionally after 1 or 2 drinks and I breathalyzed myself with those throwaway ones you buy in halfords before driving and I was UNDER. The only other time I've driven on more than that the police breathalyzed me and I was UNDER the only reason they pulled me was because I was speeding on the motorway as do a lot of others, then they smelt the booze.The man who killed those 3 boys was obviously VERY drunk.
The problem with testing yourself after drinking is that even though you may appear to be under the limit on a disposeable breath test, because of how your body processes alcohol, with a delay between drinking and is showing up in your blood / breath, you might still be over the limit when you are driving as your level continues to rise.
That is why we advocate no drinking at all if you are going to drive.
 
#14
And if I know someone's driving I don't pressure them to drink or even offer them any, I like the way you seem to think that is acceptable lol
I don’t think it is acceptable to try to pressurise someone into drinking if they are going to drive. In the circumstances you have described it seems the person may have had the intention of you NOT driving, but doing other things.
But what is unacceptable is giving in to that pressure. That is what Hewl is on about, with taking personal responsibility. It is your decision about how you earn a living but you put yourself in a risky situation and then try to justify the outcome as being “not my fault.” If you adopt that attitude, where is the learning curve to ensure that it doesn’t happen again?
 

hewl

Well-known member
#15
And if I know someone's driving I don't pressure them to drink or even offer them any, I like the way you seem to think that is acceptable lol
You just don't understand and that is the problem. YOU are fully in control of how much you drink and whether you drive or not. You continue to blame others for your own choices and actions so it is inevitable that you will drive again whilst under the influence if you don't change your attitude in the next 15 months.

If l kept pressuring you into injecting heroine would you eventually say yes?? I don't think so! If you can't say no or feel pressured to drink then you have alcohol problems that need to be addressed. Having said that, drink away to your hearts content just dont drive!

You haven't come across with any remorse, you simply feel hard done by. That is appauling.

Does the fact you need to use alcohol indicators to see if you are over the limit not worry you?? Do you think normal people do that?

Until you accept that alcohol of any amount and driving do not mix you will continue to be a danger to the public.

Lots of people come here having made a mistake or an error judgement, are genuinely remorseful and change their ways so it doesn't happen again. You are an exception.

Accept responsibility, learn from it, stop blaming everyone else and stop risking being over the limit.

Hopefully 15 months without your license will make you not want to gamble with it again, sadly I doubt it.

It is as simple as this, drink OR drive. YOU decide.
 
#16
The learning curve to ensure it doesn't happen again is if someone is overkeen on me drinking I take their money and bugger off without giving them anything serves them bloody well right.I don't have a drink problem I just stocked up on all kinds of things when I passed my test in case I should ever need them, spare bulbs first aid kit ect.I could have taken the train but I had the breathalysers in the car and figured if I'm under Id prefer to drive otherwise I would've taken the train.
My biggest regret is not robbing that cnt blind and buggering off while he was in the toilet tbh
 
#17
I said I wouldn’t pass judgement on what you chose to do, but I will, you are a disgrace to your profession!
Your
posts are so ridiculous that I am starting to believe that the whole thing is a wind up. I shall not bother offering further advice, good luck with your choice of career........
 

hewl

Well-known member
#18
The learning curve to ensure it doesn't happen again is if someone is overkeen on me drinking I take their money and bugger off without giving them anything serves them bloody well right.I don't have a drink problem I just stocked up on all kinds of things when I passed my test in case I should ever need them, spare bulbs first aid kit ect.I could have taken the train but I had the breathalysers in the car and figured if I'm under Id prefer to drive otherwise I would've taken the train.
My biggest regret is not robbing that cnt blind and buggering off while he was in the toilet tbh
So your learning curve is to resort to theft?! I guess if the guy had caught you stealing and reported you to the Police or tackled you himself that would be his fault too not yours?

Come on! You have to take responsibility for your own actions. Until you do you will continue to find yourself in situations you don't want to be in.

Ok I get what you say about struggling for money and entering into a profession you may have otherwise not chosen but you and you only are responsible for the choices you make. Whether that be drink driving, escorting, stealing etc. The blame game is just ridiculous.

Do you really not take any accountability for this???

I still don't understand why your biggest regret is not drink driving? Thats what I am trying to get out of you but the poking is not working (excuse the pun!). Believe it or not, if you read between the lines of my posts I am actually trying to help you! Repeat offenders are the ones who either just don't care or don't take responsibilty for what they have done.

Don't risk becoming a repeat offender. Wise up NOW! You need to realise the seriousness of what you did and the fact that the repercussions could have been much worse.

Do you plan to continue in the escorting business without the use of a car? If you do, do not be tempted to drive whilst disqualified, the Magistrates really don't like that.

I honestly do believe you will drink drive again and l also believe you will drive whilst disqualified.

You WILL end up in prison if you keep gambling with alcohol and driving, do you atleast understand that?
 
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