4 time and Waiting on another incident in may so that could be 5. So embarrassed but I need help I haven’t told anyone. How much custodial will I get?

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How much custodial will I get for being caught drink driving for the fourth time having had a suspended sentence last time. I am waiting on blood results for another incident in may, I wasn’t insured on the works van and they took my bloods so I could get banned for that as well so that could be 5times.I need help as I’ve not told anyone as I am too embarrassed and ashamed please don’t judge
 
I think its time to instruct a specialist solicitor, based on what I have read you could be looking at jail time. But if it does happen then see it as a chance to restart and kick old habits. Being caught 5th time shows there is a problem relationship with alcohol, so make sure you join a support group and get that sorted. Will look favourable in court against all the other things
 
What time frame are we looking at? Give the year for each offence and the ban length.
Also, as near as you can give it, the exact date of the last offence and the emails of the suspended sentence.
Did you do a roadside hand held breath test? What was the reading on that.
Why was it an evidential blood reading? What was the time difference between being arrested and the blood sample being taken?
Had you got your licence back when you were driving the works van?

That will help give some indication of your predicament now.
 
I think its time to instruct a specialist solicitor, based on what I have read you could be looking at jail time. But if it does happen then see it as a chance to restart and kick old habits. Being caught 5th time shows there is a problem relationship with alcohol, so make sure you join a support group and get that sorted. Will look favourable in court against all the other things

I agree, but it needn’t be a specialist drink drive solicitor unless there is thought to be anything wrong with the procedure.
It can be any solicitor who is good at presenting mitigation around alcohol issues. The mitigation will be around drink, not the driving.
 
Morning

I am a little bit lost with the circumstances here! I take it you were arrested back in May for DUI, when the police took your bloods, and to date this case not been brought to court? From what you have said, this was your fourth DUI offence?

Since then you have been potted for a fifth time, while you are technically still on police bail for the DUI offence you committed in May.

From my own knowledge of the DUI legislation, if the previous offences you referred to happened many years ago and there have been considerable gaps between the respective offences, you might be okay avoiding a custodial sentence.

However if say, all five drink driving offences took place in a ten year period, you might have it all to do at court I'm afraid. I think its fair to say, you will not be driving for a long long time!!!! I believe Magistrates can impose a maximum ban of 60 months (5 years) in extreme cases.

I won't pass comment on a custodial sentence, but as Pricey has mentioned, I would suggest you need to seek professional legal advice on this occasion.

CJ
 
I agree, but it needn’t be a specialist drink drive solicitor unless there is thought to be anything wrong with the procedure.
It can be any solicitor who is good at presenting mitigation around alcohol issues. The mitigation will be around drink, not the driving.
Absolutely. Don’t waste money on a specialist solicitor.
 
Hi,

4-5 times shows there is a issue with alchohol. I would never judge anyone. Keep your head up Mate!

King Regards,




Stu
 
How much custodial will I get for being caught drink driving for the fourth time having had a suspended sentence last time. I am waiting on blood results for another incident in may, I wasn’t insured on the works van and they took my bloods so I could get banned for that as well so that could be 5times.I need help as I’ve not told anyone as I am too embarrassed and ashamed please don’t judge
Yep, as Guygibson says, you need to get yourself to AA because much as you want to drive, you have a more basic problem of alcohol abuse which needs dealt with sooner rather than later.

I have no idea if you consider yourself alcoholic or not, but if you tell me how much you drink per week then I can make an educated guess.

AA has worked wonders for me over the last 27 months and if you need any advice or help, PM me on this forum.

Cheers
 
I am chairman of a AA meeting on a Saturday morning its easy going and its secular so there's no god involved its on zoom if you like pm me and I will give you meeting number the first step is acceptence
 
I am chairman of a AA meeting on a Saturday morning its easy going and its secular so there's no god involved its on zoom if you like pm me and I will give you meeting number the first step is acceptence
That's great Guy. I think we have all been where Bungy85 is right now. I'm lucky my only two 'crimes' are drink driving as if I had kept on drinking I would have done much worse.
 
Good to hear that AA worked for some here. It doesn't for everyone and didn't for me. Addictions are as complex and numerous as the number of addicts. There is no magic bullet cure.
 
Good to hear that AA worked for some here. It doesn't for everyone and didn't for me. Addictions are as complex and numerous as the number of addicts. There is no magic bullet cure.

While AA helped me initially, I was in a cycle of relapse until I went to rehab. It was the 3 months isolated that broke my patterns of behaviour and I was able to jumpstart the healing process. Counselling, therapy and CBT were the tools required to get better. Addiction is a social symptom of trauma. Deal with the route trauma and the symtoms improve. If AA is all it takes for some then power to them! I found that in my case full intervention was required.
 
Good to hear that AA worked for some here. It doesn't for everyone and didn't for me. Addictions are as complex and numerous as the number of addicts. There is no magic bullet cure.
I disagree AA secular AA without god and doing the practical steps or which ever program suits you has a very high percentage of success.
Now traditional AA with its rules and praying and higher and doing the steps power alot of people fail but the first thing uou have to do is accept you have a problem people who fail at addiction and recovery give up thats the secret just keep going
 
While AA helped me initially, I was in a cycle of relapse until I went to rehab. It was the 3 months isolated that broke my patterns of behaviour and I was able to jumpstart the healing process. Counselling, therapy and CBT were the tools required to get better. Addiction is a social symptom of trauma. Deal with the route trauma and the symtoms improve. If AA is all it takes for some then power to them! I found that in my case full intervention was required.
I found that AA made me realise I wasn't alone in my addiction. I was suffering for a long time form a bad case of the 'poor me's' and 'nobody understands what I've been through.'

But honestly, some of the stories about peoples lives I have heard in the last 2 and a bit years are scary. In fact, I'm amazed some people survived to get to where they were.

My main issues stemmed from that fact that I was bullied mercilessly for around 10 years up until the age of 15. After that I grew up a lot and was able to fight back, but then laterally, the boss I ultimately worked for was that bully, and I found as a 55year old, that he engendered in me the same feelings of inadequacy that the earlier bullies had done.

Despite being told by them for years that I was stupid, useless and would amount to nothing (plus the physical pain,) I was resilient enough to fight my way through it and get myself a Professional qualification, a Masters Degree, become successful at what I was doing and run a business in my spare time. And then this one individual, whose main role in life was to fight and belittle someone on a daily basis, brought it all back and I began drinking to mask the pain.

So yes, it might not work for everyone, but at least give it a try.
 
I disagree AA secular AA without god and doing the practical steps or which ever program suits you has a very high percentage of success.
Now traditional AA with its rules and praying and higher and doing the steps power alot of people fail but the first thing uou have to do is accept you have a problem people who fail at addiction and recovery give up thats the secret just keep going
Whilst respecting your belief in AA's efficacy, I'm not sure that the advice to 'just keep going' is terribly
useful for a lot of people. (Incidentally, research suggests AA's success rate ranging from about 33% to as low as 8%).

If you could cite some examples of programmes that you describe as having a 'very high percentage of success', that would be most helpful to me and, I suspect, others here.
 
While AA helped me initially, I was in a cycle of relapse until I went to rehab. It was the 3 months isolated that broke my patterns of behaviour and I was able to jumpstart the healing process. Counselling, therapy and CBT were the tools required to get better. Addiction is a social symptom of trauma. Deal with the route trauma and the symtoms improve. If AA is all it takes for some then power to them! I found that in my case full intervention was required.
I similarly had to resort to rehab and therapeutic support to start challenging my addiction.

And I totally agree that if AA is working for you then that is brilliant. It's free and widely available and does transform some people's lives. But if it doesn't, then it's important to resist the notion of 'failure'. AA was founded in the mid 1930's and the understanding of addiction and it's underlying causes have changed out of all recognition since then.
 
I similarly had to resort to rehab and therapeutic support to start challenging my addiction.

And I totally agree that if AA is working for you then that is brilliant. It's free and widely available and does transform some people's lives. But if it doesn't, then it's important to resist the notion of 'failure'. AA was founded in the mid 1930's and the understanding of addiction and it's underlying causes have changed out of all recognition since then.
Your right AA was founded in 1933 and is very much god based very much out dated that is why alot of people are going down the secular practical version by Jeffery Munn which concentrates on the psychological side of addiction but which ever way you do AA it is better than doing nothing
 
Whilst respecting your belief in AA's efficacy, I'm not sure that the advice to 'just keep going' is terribly
useful for a lot of people. (Incidentally, research suggests AA's success rate ranging from about 33% to as low as 8%).

If you could cite some examples of programmes that you describe as having a 'very high percentage of success', that would be most helpful to me and, I suspect, others here.
After working in mental health units for the past 16yrs I can assure you the 12 step program works if the patient wants to quit substance missuse and if your figures are correct of 33% to 8% that is most definitely a better percentage of not going to AA at all
 
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