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    Default Re: New Drink Driving Legislation Effective 1st June 2013

    Quote Originally Posted by gutted View Post
    Given that this doesn't apply to existing convictions - only new ones - I can't understand what is wrong with it. Why would anyone have a problem with it unless they were intending to drink and drive? Don't drink and drive and you'll never be affected.

    When I was banned (July '09 - April '10) I applied for my license in Feb, did the medical in March and then I had the license back well before I was allowed to drive again.
    gutted what you are saying is "I was al-right jack but *** anyone else in the future" I bought this new legislation to the forums attention on my very first post in January 2010 in a thread that is still very active. If it had come in a year earlier and had effected you and also if your medical had given DVLA reasons to contact your GP, the enquiries would of taken months past the expiry date of your ban. Perhaps then you may of had a different opinion to the selfish one I have just read. But hey-ho everyone is entitled to an opinion and thank you for yours.


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    Quote Originally Posted by habanero View Post
    I notice by the way the dates on your ban - this was before the kick off with the people who's alcohol levels had not been passed to the DVLA, which caused the backlog of cases that they are now dealing with and hence the long delays.
    habanero the 10 week to 3 month backlog when a supervisor "Medic" has to make a decision has been going on for at least 14 years and probably longer. It has nothing to do with the balls up they made last year or when ever it was. However perhaps they may now take on a few extra medics and start processing applications a bit quicker, time will tell.

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    Default Re: New Drink Driving Legislation Effective 1st June 2013

    Quote Originally Posted by bristol.red View Post
    gutted what you are saying is "I was al-right jack but *** anyone else in the future" I bought this new legislation to the forums attention on my very first post in January 2010 in a thread that is still very active. If it had come in a year earlier and had effected you and also if your medical had given DVLA reasons to contact your GP, the enquiries would of taken months past the expiry date of your ban. Perhaps then you may of had a different opinion to the selfish one I have just read. But hey-ho everyone is entitled to an opinion and thank you for yours
    Bull****.

    If they'd brought this in and it applied to existing convictions then it would be unfair. But they haven't so it applies to me just as much as it does everyone else.
    Last edited by Forum Moderator; 06-02-2013 at 08:40 AM.

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    Default Re: New Drink Driving Legislation Effective 1st June 2013

    Gutted, your reply does not make sense to me, have you been drinking?

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    Default Re: New Drink Driving Legislation Effective 1st June 2013

    Quote Originally Posted by bristol.red View Post
    Gutted, your reply does not make sense to me, have you been drinking?
    It only applies to people who are convicted from today. If I drink drive today it affects me. Same as everyone else.

    What can't you get your head around?

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    Default Re: New Drink Driving Legislation Effective 1st June 2013

    Quote Originally Posted by gutted View Post
    It only applies to people who are convicted from today. If I drink drive today it affects me. Same as everyone else.

    What can't you get your head around?
    Thank you, that is easier to read. But it still does not explain why you still believe it is good legislation that starts today. I still think your wording of your original post was very selfish.

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    The change in the legislation is fine... *if* and only *if* the DVLA sort out their problems first so that people are able to have a decision made and the process completed by the end of their disqualification period. Otherwise it is adding an unfair additional extension to some peoples cases, it may be that a percentage of people wouldn't pass the medical, but a higher percentage would pass so why should they be made to wait for an unknown additional length of time? People have made the stupid choice to drink and drive, we've all done it which is why we are on this forum, but they've had the horrible time in court, the punishment of the disqualification and fines/community service/jail in some cases and served out that punishment as prescribed by the court. So they deserve the right to have a clear and prompt decision made - "yes you can drive again on the day your ban ends" or "no you can't and this is why...". Simple as.
    If you're put in jail for 3yrs then you expect to be released at the end of those 3yrs (assuming you haven't been a dick during your punishment), if you serve out those 3yrs only to be told you'll have to stay in longer then I think you'd be pretty p*ssed. Moreso if you say "okay, how much longer?" and they give you an answer of "don't know, we're still thinking about it, probably another 3mths, maybe 6mths while we get more information!".

    So yeah, the legislation makes very good sense, the application of it does not. The DVLA need to be held accountable for anyone whose application processing goes past the end date of their ban.
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    All I hope regarding this new legislation, and I do understand the reasons it has been bought in, are that DVLA start dealing with applications quicker than they currently do. This may mean an increase in application fees because they obviously need more qualified staff to deal with these matters. A two week wait before they open a letter or scan it into the system is a joke. Then a 3 month wait for a medic to consider a decision that has taken a GP 6 weeks to reply, is another joke. Perhaps we may now see them considering matters quicker but I doubt it very much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bristol.red View Post
    Thank you, that is easier to read. But it still does not explain why you still believe it is good legislation that starts today. I still think your wording of your original post was very selfish.
    Previous one made just as much sense.

    Regarding why I think it's 'good legislation' (not what I said, but lets move on). Anyone who drink drives is taking a calculated risk. If you don't think it is worth the risk, you don't do it. If you think it is worth the risk, and you drink drive and get caught, then you've made your bed and you lie in it. In this case, that means not getting your license back till you've done the medical. What's the problem? You agreed to those terms when you drove pissed.

    Regardless I always thought it was daft that you could get your license back for a while, then lose it again because you fail the medical. Never made sense.

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    Default Re: New Drink Driving Legislation Effective 1st June 2013

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    Quote Originally Posted by gutted View Post

    Regardless I always thought it was daft that you could get your license back for a while, then lose it again because you fail the medical. Never made sense.
    Up until today people got there licences back because they had completed there disqualification, finished the sentence which the courts gave them. Now the government has decided that they have to prove they are not dependant on alcohol before they are allowed to drive again and you are not allowed to start proving this to DVLA untill 3 months before the ban ends.

    The time DVLA take to make decisions, many applicants who were dependant will be in recovery and no longer be dependant when a decision is made. On the other hand many applicants will of become dependant on alcohol by the fact of getting so pissed of with DVLA and the time they are taking, you only have to read this forum to understand how frustrated and anxious DVLA are making some people. I have said in other threads that my drinking increases when I get angry with DVLA. The way DVLA treat certain applicants can easily throw them of the "wagon" road to recovery and put them back to hell.

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