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    Algorfa37 is offline New Member
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    A friend of mine has had her driving licence revoked by the DVLA because of information received alleging alcohol dependence.

    I would guess that it was her GP. Unfortunately she suffers from a potentially life threatening disease and is undergoing numerous tests at several hospitals. The stress of her situation has led to periods of alcohol indulgence and overnight stays in A&E departments, I appreciate that this should not be an excuse to over indulge, but is it likely that the DVLA may take her on-going health problems into consideration if she appeals?

    Having her licence revoked will have a major effect upon attending future appointments for clinics and treatments.

    If she attends an independent medical examination at a DVLA approved doctor, can she expect an unbiased report, and if the independent examination is found in her favour, will she be able to override the DVLA decision and have her licence re-instated?


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    According to Sean Joyce you can only have your licence revoked on the grounds of alcohol dependence if
    you have been disqualified from driving.

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    Not sure where that came from.....I have not seen that in any of Sean’s posts.
    DVLA CAN revoke a licence if they receive credible evidence of alcohol misuse, such as from a GP.
    here is the guidance:

    https://www.gov.uk/guidance/drug-or-...tness-to-drive

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    Quote Originally Posted by Algorfa37 View Post
    A friend of mine has had her driving licence revoked by the DVLA because of information received alleging alcohol dependence.

    I would guess that it was her GP. Unfortunately she suffers from a potentially life threatening disease and is undergoing numerous tests at several hospitals. The stress of her situation has led to periods of alcohol indulgence and overnight stays in A&E departments, I appreciate that this should not be an excuse to over indulge, but is it likely that the DVLA may take her on-going health problems into consideration if she appeals?

    Having her licence revoked will have a major effect upon attending future appointments for clinics and treatments.

    If she attends an independent medical examination at a DVLA approved doctor, can she expect an unbiased report, and if the independent examination is found in her favour, will she be able to override the DVLA decision and have her licence re-instated?
    It is unlikely that DVLA would entertain a further medical before at least 6 months have elapsed, more likely to be 12 months. The life threatening problems are not going to be an influencing factor, it is the safety of other road users that is paramount. If her medical problems have included being in hospital from alcohol abuse then that will be a big influencing factor!
    it is open to your friend to appeal to the Magistrates Court for the decision by DVLA to be overturned, but again they would not consider the inconvenience of no licence on your friend, it would be the safety of other road users.

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    You have to read it, and understand what it says:

    The DVLA have the right to either revoke a driving licence or refuse to reinstate it following a ban, on medical grounds.


    It says “either” so they can revoke a licence on medical grounds, OR refuse to reinstate it after a ban.......
    Last edited by price1367; 12-31-2017 at 11:45 PM.

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    Yes exactly. The original poster implied that you can loose your licence after a medical that suggests alcohol dependance
    without being banned from driving.
    That is not the case according to Sean's website.
    There seems to be some confusion here regarding this issue.

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    There is no confusion, except for how you are reading what the website says. It gives 2 scenarios where your licence can be withheld, albeit in one sentence:

    “The DVLA have the right to either revoke a driving licence or refuse to reinstate it following a ban, on medical grounds”.

    Note the use of the word EITHER, both of which relate to medical grounds.

    One is where they can take it away, (revoke) on medical grounds, which is what is being discussed on this thread, the other is where they can refuse to reinstate it following a ban, on medical grounds. The link that you provided goes on to talk about the procedure after a ban because it is in a section entitled “motoring offences”.

    i provided the link to the guidance on this before, and this is what the relevant part says:

    https://www.gov.uk/guidance/drug-or-...tness-to-drive

    Dependence confirmed by medical enquiry
    Also refer to alcohol related seizure below
    ✘- Must not drive and must notify the DVLA.

    Licence will be refused or revoked until after a minimum of 1 year free of alcohol problems.

    Abstinence is usually required, with normalised blood parameters if relevant.
    There is NO requirement in these conditions for there to have been a conviction.....
    Last edited by price1367; 01-01-2018 at 09:35 PM.

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    OK so not drinking and driving is considered as serious as drinking and driving.
    I don't think that having a blood test proves that a motorist is a dangerous driver.
    This seems to prevent honest good people from visiting their Doctors in case they loose their
    licence even though they don't drink and drive.

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    Using that logic You might as well say that epilepsy is as dangerous as drink driving because your licence can be revoked for that as well, also a number of other medical conditions. It includes:

    You must tell DVLA if you have a driving licence and:

    • you develop a ‘notifiable’ medical condition or disability
    • a condition or disability has got worse since you got your licence

    Notifiable conditions are anything that could affect your ability to drive safely. They can include:

    • epilepsy
    • strokes
    • other neurological and mental health conditions
    • physical disabilities
    • visual impairments

    I don’t think people will avoid discussing these issues with their GP.
    at the end of the day it is about the safety of other road users.
    If there are concerns about your fitness to drive, surely a reasonable person would not want to drive and put others at risk?

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