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Thread: Are the drink driving laws in the UK adequate?

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    w.knight is offline Member
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    Default Re: Are the drink driving laws in the UK adequate?

    Not been here for a bit but was more disturbed by these comments than the comments he was making reference to
    "Blimey ! I think you have some serious mental issues Ladybones ! instead of reminding me and no doubt others of a disgusting racist with strong comparisons to Hitler and the Third Reich perhaps look at seeing a qualified medical professional paid for by yourself not on the NHS.

    The whole vapourisation comment is pretty disturbed, sick and worrying I hope you do the world a favour and get help. "

    She is as entitled to her point of view refgarding the selfishness of drunk drivers as you are to drink and drive and get caught over the limit then like most on here winge about it.

    Being found guilty of drink driving which is against the law carries a penalty. If you are prepared to drink and drive do not complain when you are charged accordingly and risk losing all the things mentioned.
    This woman obviously has a problem with drunk drivers for a reason. There are far too many posts from drunk drivers who think they are being overly punished.

    Drinking and driving while OVER a prescribed limit is a CRIME.
    If people are not sure if they should drive after drinking are playing russian roulette. They should just think themselves lucky if they have an accident and no one else is hurt.

    While this not please all of the people who disaree with me- and this 'strange' woman, tough


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    oh dear me

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    Default Re: Are the drink driving laws in the UK adequate?

    And they walk among us!

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    Default Re: Are the drink driving laws in the UK adequate?

    I think Ladybones and w.knight may well be trolls trying to get a rise out of people. It's a bit of sport to some people and there are forums out there who target specific websites until they get people to bite.

    Either that or just Daily Mail readers. Either way not worth worrying about!

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    Default Re: Are the drink driving laws in the UK adequate?

    drink driving kills or injuries, on average, 12000 a year. How can that be 'not worth worrying about'

    New Pedestrian. View the documentary I made here and then see what you think - especially sandy's story...

    http://dontbethatsomeone.co.uk/

    Mike

    Quote Originally Posted by new_pedestrian View Post
    I think Ladybones and w.knight may well be trolls trying to get a rise out of people. It's a bit of sport to some people and there are forums out there who target specific websites until they get people to bite.

    Either that or just Daily Mail readers. Either way not worth worrying about!

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    Default Re: Are the drink driving laws in the UK adequate?

    Think you misunderstood my post there; perhaps i didn't write it clearly enough. I think that those posters are not worth getting upset about because I have a theory that they may be trolls.

    In my humblest of opinions, those of us here who have been convicted and punished for drink driving really don't need anyone to come and throw rotten vegetables at us. The justice system (and by extension society) has prescribed a suitable sentence for us and most of us have learned a great deal as a result, not least from the extensive drink driving rehabilitation course.

    So even if they're not trolls (I still think at least one of them is and probably both), they are making sweeping judgements about everyone who posts on this forum. Either way I don't think that they are worth getting upset about. Them. Not drink driving.

    If you read some of my posts on this forum you'll see that I already dislike drink driving.

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    Default Re: Are the drink driving laws in the UK adequate?

    Quote Originally Posted by new_pedestrian View Post
    Think you misunderstood my post there; perhaps i didn't write it clearly enough. I think that those posters are not worth getting upset about because I have a theory that they may be trolls.

    In my humblest of opinions, those of us here who have been convicted and punished for drink driving really don't need anyone to come and throw rotten vegetables at us. The justice system (and by extension society) has prescribed a suitable sentence for us and most of us have learned a great deal as a result, not least from the extensive drink driving rehabilitation course.

    So even if they're not trolls (I still think at least one of them is and probably both), they are making sweeping judgements about everyone who posts on this forum. Either way I don't think that they are worth getting upset about. Them. Not drink driving.

    If you read some of my posts on this forum you'll see that I already dislike drink driving.
    Hear hear! Sick of being lectured about it. We've admitted wrong doing and have expressed remorse, paid fines and are trying to pay our debt to society. I for one will never do it again but how many times does a one time convicted drink driver have to say sorry for making a mistake? Nobody is perfect and people make mistakes. I've watched many videos about the pain and devastation drink driving causes and will NEVER make the mistake again.

    If someone repeats the offence then I for one have no sympathy either. Beat them with a stick repeatedly but stop beating the ones who made a mistake and will never do it again. Rant over. Dee x
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    Default Yes and no.

    Going back to the initial question, I believe each case is individual. Sure there are some nasty people out there who have no qualms about breaking the law and hurting other people. However, from what I have read on this site, the majority of people sincerely regret their actions and certainly never set out to do anything stupid. I am one of them.
    I was dismayed by the comments by w.knight and Ladybones especially. It was people like her that made me feel so embarrassed about admitting my folly to those that know me. If they were all as judgemental as Ladybones no one could ever admit they have made mistakes in their lives.
    Anyone who has read my posts will know I was banned for just over a year for being found behind the wheel of my car having had some wine earlier in the day. The whole police and court experience was very stressful and not being able to drive brings about new problems every day. In other words, my punishment extends beyond the driving ban and into everyday life. I admit I made a mistake and deserved the punishment. I have therefore quit drinking (not that I drank much anyway) and my life will improve because if the lesson I have learnt.
    In my defence, I would not have driven if I felt drunk because I know I would risk crashing and possibly harming or killing someone. I was punished accordingly but, just like so many people on this site, I am not a bad person who set out to do bad things. If I was deliberately reckless, then I would deserve severe consequences.
    As New Pedestrian said, these two people may be trolls who set out to stir things up on here. I do wonder if Ladybones is one of those hardliners who takes great pleasure in kicking a person when he/she is down. I am also curious to know if Ladybones and w.knight have ever unwittingly committed a ‘crime’ or made any mistakes in their lives. I am sure they have because no one is perfect.
    She had her emotional rant, said her ‘goodbye’ to the site (after all the opposition to her nasty remarks, I doubt she would show herself again) and no doubt will make certain patients under her care suffer more indignity. If we learn from our mistakes and become better people for it, that makes us better than those who sit on a pedestal and cast judgement.
    My closing remark is that only those that are perfect should judge.
    Stay positive.

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    No I am not a troll I am someone who sees far too often people, who are obviously not like you that have slagged me off for my equally valid opinion, however warped in your eyes. I see that you all feel that you will never repeat your mistake and one of you feels that people who reoffend deserve what they get. No I am not perfect but I made a choice the day I passed my driving test I would NEVER drink and drive. I always wear my seat belt, I have voice activated hands free for my phone and I try my best not to speed. I think extra about bikes and cycles all as a result of my job where I see the after effects. Yes sure I have seen many who were mortified about the accident and had obviously not planned to have an accident which hurt or killed someone. One or two I have had moments of sympathy. More so for their family who have to live with it as well.
    I should have never written the comments when I did as I was still raw from the incident of my FILs, drunken driving, 12 weeks in ITU, crap fine and ban and the fall out of all this crap on my Husband. I do realise there are people out there who are mortified but some of the comments I read leading up to my comments sounded very self centred.
    I realise most of you are writing from a personal point of view. I have been swamped by incidents over the past 30 years and this incident with my father in law really made my blood boil and when I came here and read some of the posts in a negative way I splurged my venom into posts. Perhaps I would have been better going to an anti drink driving forum where my rant would have been better understood. I also have wondered if any of you had been a victim of a drunk driver either directly or indirectly via family or close friends, would your opinions about the current laws be the same. Yes you have paid a bigger price than the legal system has given you in terms of potential/actual losses above the fine and ban. I made a conscious decision not to drink and drive, as I am aware of these costs too and am not prepared to pay them
    I tried to post last week to apologise-my post wouldn’t load. So I will apologise here and now. Since then my father in laws ban has expired and he has taken delivery of a brand new car, his insurance is nowhere near the £1000+ I was hoping it would be and today he got drunk at the club and drove home- couldn’t park the car and could barely walk to the house up the drive. I had a text from a friend who was there telling me and she had phoned the police-just like she had the last time obviously not a high priority prior to him having an accident.
    He has never stopped drinking, because he wasn’t a 'high risk' at BAV 115mg he didn’t have to pass any medical, he had no problem getting his licence back and you wonder why I was so angry before. His family just standby and watch. They are scared of him. I just hope he doesn’t kill anyone before the police stop him which I hope they eventually will. I have told him what I think and he family are paying the price of my outburst.
    I have lost count of people who I have had to look after who have driven while banned or repeatedly driving while drunk and it is these people who I have a bigger issue with.
    I wonder if you have ever made comments or have opinions about people like this when you have heard about them in the news. But I doubt many of them come here looking for help.
    I wish you all a swift return to driving and hope you live up to your aspirations.

    Maybe you can all teach me a thing or two.



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    Default Re: Are the drink driving laws in the UK adequate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ladybones View Post
    No I am not a troll I am someone who sees far too often people, who are obviously not like you that have slagged me off for my equally valid opinion, however warped in your eyes. I see that you all feel that you will never repeat your mistake and one of you feels that people who reoffend deserve what they get. No I am not perfect but I made a choice the day I passed my driving test I would NEVER drink and drive. I always wear my seat belt, I have voice activated hands free for my phone and I try my best not to speed. I think extra about bikes and cycles all as a result of my job where I see the after effects. Yes sure I have seen many who were mortified about the accident and had obviously not planned to have an accident which hurt or killed someone. One or two I have had moments of sympathy. More so for their family who have to live with it as well.
    I should have never written the comments when I did as I was still raw from the incident of my FILs, drunken driving, 12 weeks in ITU, crap fine and ban and the fall out of all this crap on my Husband. I do realise there are people out there who are mortified but some of the comments I read leading up to my comments sounded very self centred.
    I realise most of you are writing from a personal point of view. I have been swamped by incidents over the past 30 years and this incident with my father in law really made my blood boil and when I came here and read some of the posts in a negative way I splurged my venom into posts. Perhaps I would have been better going to an anti drink driving forum where my rant would have been better understood. I also have wondered if any of you had been a victim of a drunk driver either directly or indirectly via family or close friends, would your opinions about the current laws be the same. Yes you have paid a bigger price than the legal system has given you in terms of potential/actual losses above the fine and ban. I made a conscious decision not to drink and drive, as I am aware of these costs too and am not prepared to pay them
    I tried to post last week to apologise-my post wouldn’t load. So I will apologise here and now. Since then my father in laws ban has expired and he has taken delivery of a brand new car, his insurance is nowhere near the £1000+ I was hoping it would be and today he got drunk at the club and drove home- couldn’t park the car and could barely walk to the house up the drive. I had a text from a friend who was there telling me and she had phoned the police-just like she had the last time obviously not a high priority prior to him having an accident.
    He has never stopped drinking, because he wasn’t a 'high risk' at BAV 115mg he didn’t have to pass any medical, he had no problem getting his licence back and you wonder why I was so angry before. His family just standby and watch. They are scared of him. I just hope he doesn’t kill anyone before the police stop him which I hope they eventually will. I have told him what I think and he family are paying the price of my outburst.
    I have lost count of people who I have had to look after who have driven while banned or repeatedly driving while drunk and it is these people who I have a bigger issue with.
    I wonder if you have ever made comments or have opinions about people like this when you have heard about them in the news. But I doubt many of them come here looking for help.
    I wish you all a swift return to driving and hope you live up to your aspirations.

    Maybe you can all teach me a thing or two.

    I don't think we can teach you much at all. You've had enough explanations. I'm sorry you've had to deal with this ****.

    I lost a 25 year old flatmate to a car accident six years ago. No reason, no drugs, no alcohol, zero speed.

    I'm now 40. You'd think I'd know better. I did. But I didn't work out 'night before' units. I didn't.
    I'm not making excuses, but don't let your experiences cloud your judgement.
    Some of us have had **** experiences also.


    I appreciated lots of your post.

    I just hope you can invert your irony.

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