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  • hewl's Avatar
    Today, 10:32 AM
    The DVLA have a duty of care to ALL road users. Having a driving licence is not a right, you need to meet their requirements. Instead of blaming the system that is in place to protect other people on our roads perhaps you should blame your alcohol consumption!
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  • Dick Van's Avatar
    Today, 07:34 AM
    I had 3 one year licences in a row issued to me & I was nowhere near a motor vehicle when I was hospitalised through too much alcohol. I was made to feel like a criminal & it was a living hell that they put me through. 3 Doctors Medicals just to get a 1 year licence granted each time. This country is a total joke.
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  • DonkeyKong's Avatar
    Yesterday, 08:19 PM
    Can I ask the following: it it is stated that CDT is: ”adopted by the Secretary of State's Honorary Medical Advisory Panel as the sole test for assessing harmful use of alcohol for high risk offenders.” What does “sole” mean in this context ? I ask because I see a lot of people talking about their GGT levels, which are a different thing? I would intend to be entirely tee-total at least a year before taking any DVLA tests. Do the DVLA require tests other that CDT? Would any other tests also be clear by total permanent abstinence?
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  • hewl's Avatar
    Yesterday, 06:29 PM
    Calm down dear....... Advise wasn't intended nor offered and I haven't judged you either. Most of my post wasn't opinion it was either information or facts as to why you are in the situation you are in. You obviously didn't understand how the DVLA work. Perhaps you do a little better now. My only opinion was about your view that most of the population binge drink at the weekend which I disagree with. If you can't accept someone disagreeing with you kindly don't express your own opinion or simply don't use the general discussion section (clues in the name)
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  • Louise41's Avatar
    Yesterday, 04:15 PM
    Hewi you have actually offered NO advice but judged my situation. I have NO interest in your opinion...I came on here for advice not judgement. So jog on to someone else's thread! If you read the roles before you sign up to this site. It clearly states NO Judgement. You haven't even understood what I have wrote!
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  • craig121's Avatar
    Yesterday, 10:19 AM
    As a professional driver the standards expected of you are much higher than an ordinary driver(Am not preaching here! I have a letter from DVLA that states that and your will arrive soon sorry Liouse
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  • hewl's Avatar
    Yesterday, 09:37 AM
    At the risk of sounding argumentative I will give you an entirely different perspective. I would strongly disagree that most of the population binge drink at the weekend or atleast the very vast majority do not if they rely on their driving licence. You have had no penalty applied, no ban, no criminal record etc so not nearly as harsh nor the same. They have simply refused you a licence because misuse has been flagged. It always amazes me that people think they have an automatic right to a driving licence. The DVLA have a responsibility to ALL road users so any hint someone may be pose a danger they have a duty to act on that and take appropriate action within their guidelines. Therefore, if you do not meet their requirements for whatever reason they will not issue you a licence until you have satisfied those requirements. Whilst this may seem harsh it is for the benefit of everyone else on the road
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  • Louise41's Avatar
    06-16-2018, 09:21 PM
    Thank you so much for taking the time to reply. All opinions and outcomes are so divided, there is no pattern or set rule to what the DVLA decide on similar if near identical situations. Your post gives me hope...it will be so detrimental to me not having a license as I'll loose my job as I need to drive whilst at work. I was simply binge drinking on weekends etc as I'm sure most of the population do! My biggest mistake was discusing with my GP. I never drove even the following day after alcohol. I always took time to allow the alcohol to leave my system. It really makes me mad that the penalties applied to myself are as harsh as people who drive whilst under the influence. I'll keep you posted😀
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  • Bacchus's Avatar
    06-16-2018, 11:25 AM
    Hi Louise, all the best with that one. I don't know specifically what detail the GP will pass to the DVLA (if any) but, apart from the level of alcohol intake (I had put down 'None' on the DR1), I was granted a restricted 1-year licence 5 months after I surrendered mine. chain of events for me: Chronically drinking - led to a GGT that indicated I was probably dead. Doctor speaks to DLVA for advice and phones me up telling not to drive and suggests surrendering licence. License surrendered to DVLA outlining 'alcohol and diet' as cause. Stopped drinking so I could get the 'all clear' from GP. I was unaware of any DVLA rules at this stage. +1 Month - After further bloods, Doctor certifies me fit to drive. +2 Months First DR1 and application submitted after further checks from Gastro scan and Alcohol rehab (walk-in) services - DHI ??. Resumed driving and Happy for a month while they checked with GP. 6-month misuse/12-month dependency thing arrived telling me not to drive. +3 Months. Application forms/DR1 arrive from DVLA. Promptly filled in (admitted misuse/dependency question - 'No' to the rest) and sent off. 2 weeks later, letter informing of further checks being made with GP +5 Months. Restricted licence appears on their website Not once was I specifically told 'I had abused' or 'I was dependent' but 5 months is still under what their rules state. Don't want to give false hopes here and purely state what happened for me as a demonstration that they are not completely rigid. Bacchus.
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  • Louise41's Avatar
    06-16-2018, 10:17 AM
    Sorry to hear that. My update is. My GP has returned my form. I asked to see it first. They did put I had seen the GP back in October 2017. She put I was no risk and since that date I only drank 4 units on special occasions. She did put a tick to misuse within 3 years. I have done lots of research and the outcome seems to be. I will loose my license for 6 months for misuse from the date the DVLA finish the enquiries ( so in the next few weeks) It seems totally unacceptable considering I have conformation from my GP stating no problem or risk since October 2017. I'll let you know when I hear back! Oh and the above all relates to my car...I won't be applying for a higher license now!
    15 replies | 294 view(s)
  • smoker325's Avatar
    06-16-2018, 09:02 AM
    Hi new here found this link that may help https://patient.info/doctor/alcohol-use-disorders-identification-test-audit Im in similar situation reapplied for hgv and have been flagged up as at risk
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  • price1367's Avatar
    06-15-2018, 04:51 PM
    The answer is a definite: “possibly”...... it depends on how DVLA feel about you, the report from your GP and if they are thinking of giving you a full 10 year licence. (as in the example from Bacchus above) sorry to not be more specific but there seems to be no clear pattern as to how DVLA deal with this.
    4 replies | 92 view(s)
  • Bacchus's Avatar
    06-15-2018, 12:33 PM
    I had a one-year licence granted after checks were made with my GP for two years' running. Third time around after checks were made with my GP I received instructions to have a DVLA medical - after which the full licence was restored. I guess the DVLA needs to be satisfied over a period of greater than two years. Not sure if it's mandatory to have the DVLA medical for a non-HRO. Possibly my past records with the GP threw up safety concerns even though he had no concerns himself anymore ? Bacchus
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  • Bacchus's Avatar
    06-15-2018, 11:32 AM
    Yes, it did get a rather sharp reaction from the doctor too who had never seen a reading so high. Just re-read the report, it was 818 IU/L. Probably accounts for the immediate referral to DVLA without discussion or written notice. It was some time ago and was a result of chronic drinking (but aware of it so the rare occasions driving were legal). It normalised within a month of abstinence. Not proud of those days but posting here as it may draw a parallel with others' experiences. My recent CDT was unknown but it must have been low. If you want any of the other figures from those dark days, I can reel them off. To bring back to the original theme, you definitely can be taken off the road without meaning to with booze. Bacchus
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  • Cindy's Avatar
    06-15-2018, 10:26 AM
    I have just been asked to attend court for drug driving, my result was 2.4mg the legal limit bring 2mg. They test many times to get an average so could I actually be under? They also use decimal points and do round down which would have bought me in line with 2mg or under How can I find out if lab testing is accredited?
    0 replies | 36 view(s)
  • enigma's Avatar
    06-15-2018, 09:46 AM
    Nice one will give them a try
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  • price1367's Avatar
    06-15-2018, 08:39 AM
    I think it would be beyond abuse if your score was 815... perhaps 81.5 was the actual reading. The GGT score is raised with alcohol consumption regularly, but it can also be raised if you have been taking medication regularly that has an effect on your liver, including paracetamol. A CDT test is a better indicator of alcohol effects on your liver. Have you had one of those? If you do not want to do this through your doctor there is a company that advertises on here for postal tests. They cost Ł79 and people report that they give accurate results.
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  • Bacchus's Avatar
    06-15-2018, 08:26 AM
    Agreed. However, it is a very vague line between misuse and dependence. Even my GP couldn't or wouldn't comment on this and left it for me to pursue with the DVLA. Naturally, I quoted 'misuse' when I spoke to the DVLA over the phone due to the 6-month wait for an application rather than 12 but there is nothing on the letters or forms to state specifically which you have been labelled with. I guess, because the GP declared me fit to drive within a month, I could reapply after six. ??? My GGT was 815 !!! this should correlate to one or the other.... probably the worse one !
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  • SeanJoyceStephensons's Avatar
    06-15-2018, 08:13 AM
    You are correct in thinking that a ban of between 23 and 28 months will be likely with a reading of 99µg of alcohol per 100ml of breath. Your reading falls into a bracket where a community order will also be imposed. Representation is certainly recommended and in my view you should seek representation ion advance. A Duty Solicitor will not be available until the day of the hearing and you will not be able to prepare your case in advance. A proactive approach will stand you in good stead with the court and addressing any underlying issues that may have led to this happening is certainly a positive. Character references from friends, family or ideally anyone in a position of responsibility can assist. If a community order is imposed then that will be in the alternative to a fine. I would recommend getting in touch with a specialist on 0333 200 9862.
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